MsgId: *high_strangeness(5)
Date: Wed Dec 31 00:55:50 EST 1997
From: Moderator At: 168.100.204.161
Welcome to High Strangeness! My name is Patrick Huyghe and our guest tonight is former USAF Staff Sergeant Dan Sherman, author of the new book "ABOVE BLACK -- Project Preserve Destiny, Insider Account of Alien Contact and Government Cover-Up" (One Team Publishing, 147 pp., $18.00, available at http://www.aboveblack.com). Dan Sherman has a story you won't believe--or maybe you will.Sherman claims to have spent almost three years working for the National Security Agency as an "intuitive communicator" in contact with the aliens. In "Above Black" he tells of his training, the things he learned from his alien contacts, and the events that led him to seek a discharge from the USAF at all costs. Sherman believes that the project he worked on, called Preserve Destiny, is only one of the US government's many alien-related projects. Sherman served a total of more than 12 years in the USAF. He was recognized for heroism and has been decorated with the AF Commendation Medal and the AF Achievement Medal. He also received the AF Outstanding Unit Award and was honored for service in the Persian Gulf.
Now to begin . . . When did the event take place that you are talking about?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(8)
Date: Wed Dec 31 00:58:42 EST 1997
From: Dan_Sherman At: 198.145.145.27
I'm not sure what you mean by "event", but I was indoctrinated into the program in early 1992. BTW.. I was a Technical Sergeant)
MsgId: *high_strangeness(9)
Date: Wed Dec 31 00:59:14 EST 1997
From: Moderator At: 168.100.204.161
Okay. Thanks for the correction. What is Project Preserve Destiny?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(11)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:01:28 EST 1997
From: Dan_Sherman At: 198.145.145.27
Well, that is a long explanation..short version, as was told to me . . . it is a program designed to cultivate humans who have the ability to "intuitively" communicate with an alien race to provide a worldwide communication link in the future where there will presumably be no electromagnetic means of communication.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(13)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:02:34 EST 1997
From: Moderator At: 168.100.204.161
At the NSA you were told that your mom had been visited by aliens in 1960 and that you were given an "interesting ability," which is called Intuitive Communication. What is IC exactly?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(14)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:05:00 EST 1997
From: Dan_Sherman At: 198.145.145.27
Intuitively communicating is the term utilized by my superiors that was ascribed to my abilities. It is an ability through the mental manipulation of one's mind to communicate. The actual communication I liken to looking at a tapestry (and feeling/seeing all the colors and textures . . .) It is a VERY rich means of communicating.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(16)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:05:24 EST 1997
From: Moderator At: 168.100.204.161
IC sounds a cross between "remote viewing" and channeling. Is it?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(19)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:07:22 EST 1997
From: Dan_Sherman At: 198.145.145.27
My take on channeling is that one actually takes on the traits of the one being channeled. That had nothing to do with IC'ing. Remote viewing seems to be much more vague. My communications were very much based in reality. There was nothing left to doubt.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(15)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:05:13 EST 1997
From: guest At: 12.67.211.101
Exactly how were they supposed to "cultivate" these people?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(17)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:06:00 EST 1997
From: guest At: 208.217.14.139
What group at NSA where you presumably working in/for?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(18)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:06:37 EST 1997
From: Moderator At: 168.100.204.161
Holds on, guests. Give Dan a chance to answer one question at the time.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(21)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:11:56 EST 1997
From: Dan_Sherman At: 198.145.145.27
First question is too long to answer here. The program began in 1960 . . . they started abducting to test for compatibility for the particular procedure . . . goes from there (detailed in the book obviously.) The actual NSA unit I was assigned to is classified. I printed a copy of my orders in the book and it even says "DATA MASKED" The unit is part of the "Black" project and therefore I cannot talk about that aspect of my experience.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(22)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:13:13 EST 1997
From: Moderator At: 168.100.204.161
Can you tell us the general subject matter of the black cover project that hid PPD?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(25)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:15:31 EST 1997
From: Dan_Sherman At: 198.145.145.27
This is the reason I have been able to talk about the "grey" aspect of my experience without impunity . . . because I have not revealed anything of the black projects I worked on. Believe me, they are very sensitive projects that ARE vital to national security. I'm not out to betray my nation, only to reveal info that has nothing to do with national security and is only a power play within inner circles of the "grey" government.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(28)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:16:53 EST 1997
From: Moderator At: 168.100.204.161
How can aliens NOT be a matter of national security if they are abducting people right and left?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(29)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:18:28 EST 1997
From: Dan_Sherman At: 198.145.145.27
Well, if there was a security issue directly related to the security of our nation reagrding PPD, I was not made aware of it. Perhaps there are security issues surrounding other alien projects that I am not aware of . . . but not with PPD.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(27)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:16:23 EST 1997
From: guest At: 208.23.201.37
Sgt Sherman, did Rosswell actually occur? Or was there no mention made during your time with Project Preserve Destiny?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(35)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:24:15 EST 1997
From: Dan_Sherman At: 198.145.145.27
During my initial meeting when I was told about PPD, the Capt made reference to 1947 and PPD was a result of our contact with an alien race during that year. It didn't mean anything to me at the time, because Roswell was not as well known as it is today.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(30)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:19:27 EST 1997
From: Moderator At: 168.100.204.161
You were told to take some pills before most of your IC sessions. What do you think these pills were? How do you know your experiences were real? Could the pills have been designed to make you THINK you were communicating with aliens?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(33)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:22:25 EST 1997
From: Dan_Sherman At: 198.145.145.27
One of my conversations with my second alien contact made me think the pills were some kind of oxygen enhancer, like anti-oxidents perhaps. He referred to us (humans) as "water-humans" (my interpretation) which led me to believe that perhaps my bodily oxygen level was crucial to the IC ability. The communications were real, I just know. It was an extremely lucid event each and every time.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(34)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:24:09 EST 1997
From: Moderator At: 168.100.204.161
But how do you know you were actually communicating with aliens?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(37)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:25:44 EST 1997
From: Dan_Sherman At: 198.145.145.27
When you are called by your mother, how do you know it is actually HER? I was not absolutely, 100% sure it was an alien but the fabric and content of the communication was unlike any other form of communication I have ever experienced.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(36)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:25:36 EST 1997
From: guest At: 12.67.211.101
These aliens that you communicated with, in what star system are they located? How did our government know to enhance your oxygen levels? And why are these aliens participating?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(41)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:28:20 EST 1997
From: Dan_Sherman At: 198.145.145.27
I am unaware of where they have come from. Everytime I tried to talk about such things my alien contacts were vague and even when we discussed principles of time, I was completely lost as to what they were saying. They do use "time" for there propulsion. One thing that was interesting and when he said they can't go through time, but they can go "around" time. All those types of conversations were quite interesting for me, even though I didn't understand half of what was being said.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(39)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:27:50 EST 1997
From: Moderator At: 168.100.204.161
As you say so yourself in your book, you initially found what your NSA boss told you rather unbelievable. Don't you think they might have been pulling something on you?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(42)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:30:18 EST 1997
From: Dan_Sherman At: 198.145.145.27
I thought they were pulling something over on me initially. But you don't experience what I experienced (interacting with a computer screen without being attached to it in any way, for one) without becoming a believer in my Intuitive Communications (IC) abilities.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(44)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:31:04 EST 1997
From: Moderator At: 168.100.204.161
What did most of your alien communications consist of?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(45)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:33:48 EST 1997
From: Dan_Sherman At: 198.145.145.27
Initially, my comms were strings of numbers then gradually became more image based . . . military launches (foreign and domestic) military movements . . . etc. Towards the end they started comming to me abduction scenarios, which directly led to my seeking a discharge.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(46)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:34:35 EST 1997
From: Moderator At: 168.100.204.161
What made you think that some numbers had to do with alien abductions?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(47)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:37:22 EST 1997
From: Dan_Sherman At: 198.145.145.27
Numbers were intially. Abduction info came later. I started to receive info such as Potentiality for Recall with a number assigned to it. Other categories were Residual Pain Levels . . . with a number assigned to it. What would you decipher these types of comms as?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(49)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:39:23 EST 1997
From: guest At: 208.217.14.139
Did you catalogue these numbers and their meanings?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(50)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:40:31 EST 1997
From: Moderator At: 168.100.204.161
Guest: He was not allowed to write anything down.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(53)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:42:53 EST 1997
From: Dan_Sherman At: 198.145.145.27
I could probably have gotten away with writing this stuff down, but mind you I never figured I'd ever speak of this so it never entered my mind to document anything. It was a part of my life and was nothing special after a while.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(48)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:38:21 EST 1997
From: Moderator At: 168.100.204.161
What made you decide to quit the program and the military? And how did you manage to get out since they initially refused to let you out?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(51)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:41:20 EST 1997
From: Dan_Sherman At: 198.145.145.27
There wasn't just one thing that led me seek a discharge . . . it was a culmination of things and one final event that cemented my resolve. Unfortunately, the way I did it forces me to not talk about it. Seeking a discharge under false pretenses is punishable . . . if that were the case in this case, of course. I know this is cryptic, but there are certain things my lawyer has advised me not to speak of.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(52)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:42:08 EST 1997
From: Moderator At: 168.100.204.161
What was the "final event" you speak of here?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(54)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:44:13 EST 1997
From: Dan_Sherman At: 198.145.145.27
The "final event" is too involved to be done justice here in this little chat box. It had to do with some e-mail correspondence I had with my commander.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(55)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:44:55 EST 1997
From: Moderator At: 168.100.204.161
Did you not fear prosecution? Have you had any "official feedback" since you published your book?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(56)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:46:54 EST 1997
From: Dan_Sherman At: 198.145.145.27
I most definitely feared prosecution. What I feared most was not my talking about the grey project but my revealing it and at the same time not revealing something they would get me on regarding the "black" projects I worked with. It was a very narrow road I traveled in writing about my experiences.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(57)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:47:39 EST 1997
From: Moderator At: 168.100.204.161
Any feedback from officials?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(58)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:48:36 EST 1997
From: Dan_Sherman At: 198.145.145.27
No official feedback. Because I have had none, I will be releasing the book to be sold through stores now. You should be able to request it through any bookstore. It'll take longer but you can get it through stores now. aboveblack.com will tell you the other ways.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(59)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:48:47 EST 1997
From: guest At: 208.217.14.139
Sir, although your belief may be genuine, place yourself in our shoes. You story sounds like so many others, remiss any tangible clues to trace your understanding. It sounds too much like you are turning your grey government black world into green backs in your pocket.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(61)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:51:45 EST 1997
From: Dan_Sherman At: 198.145.145.27
Believe me, if I wanted to make lots of money I would have come up with a lot more believeable story than this to appeal to a wider audience. This is the whole truth and nothing but. I'm not sure if you're aware of the financials in these matters but I could make more money selling Amway. :)
MsgId: *high_strangeness(62)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:52:43 EST 1997
From: Moderator At: 168.100.204.161
Being a published author myself, guest, I can tell you that Dan speaks the truth about making a fortune from writing books!What have you done -- other than writing the book -- since you left the military?
MsgId: *high_strangeness(63)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:54:16 EST 1997
From: Dan_Sherman At: 198.145.145.27
I have been in the Senior Citizen insurance market since my departure. My goal in releasing the book (financially) was to attempt to make enough income to go through school and finish my degree in Computer Science. No mansions and fast cars here.
MsgId: *high_strangeness(64)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:54:54 EST 1997
From: Moderator At: 168.100.204.161
Well, we've run out of time. Thank you very much for being with us tonight, Dan Sherman. Good luck with your book! For High Strangeness, this is Patrick Huyghe. Goodnight!
MsgId: *high_strangeness(65)
Date: Wed Dec 31 01:56:15 EST 1997
From: Dan_Sherman At: 198.145.145.27
Thank you Patrick and all. Be sure to visit the webpage for more info at www.aboveblack.com
Warmest Regards . . . . Dan Sherman
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